Frank Walton Chronicle

Frank Walton Random Stupid Comment of the Day!

2008-10-04T15:09:00.000-07:00

Frank Walton on Youtube

2008-09-02T09:42:00.000-07:00

There seems to be a rash of "daddy cool" postings out there lately, because of it we've been made aware that Frank Walton is back at it over on youtube:Frank Walton on Youtube

Here are a couple of highlights from Frank Waltons Youtube site. Could he get any more childish than this?

Frank Walton kicks Rich Rodriguez's "intellectual" ass

TXatheist is Scared of Frank Walton

Greydon Square kicks Brian Sapient's ass!!!

daddy "Frank Walton" cool reviews John Loftus's new book Why I Became an Atheist: A Former Preacher Rejects Christianity

2008-08-24T19:32:00.000-07:00

the link

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The Return of Frank Walton?

2008-05-31T12:10:00.001-07:00

It appears that Frank is planning a return to the world of Christian apologetics. We can't wait.

It's pretty well known that "daddy cool" is Frank Walton.

The link

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Frank Walton: Will someone please rape my wife?

2008-05-31T11:39:00.000-07:00

Notice my cursor is over the "Frank Walton" in this comment, and it goes directly to the "Frank Walton" profile that was used to create atheismsucks.
http://www.blogger.com/profile/12126023605395414714

Interesting that he references his "wife" and calls her a whore, and that he'd like someone to rape her.

Sounds to me that he forgot to log off his real "Frank Walton" profile before posting on an "imposter" profile.

Go here to see for yourself:
http://thumbjig.blogspot.com/2007/01/most-dangerous-man.html

http://thumbjig.blogspot.com/2007/01/most-dangerous-man.html

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Frank Walton's Temper Tantrum Pays Off, Will Hawthorne Quits

2008-05-05T13:45:00.000-07:00

Will Hawthorne, Atheism is Dead and ex-Atheism Sucks blog owner Resigns.

Saying Goodbye

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Will Hawthorne, A Class Act, Returns Atheismsucks to a Childish, Pissy Frank Walton!

2008-05-05T12:18:00.000-07:00

This post has been removed from Atheismsucks.blogspot.com by Frank Walton

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Will Hawthorne Responds to Frank Walton's "Mickey Mouse" Apologist Post

2008-05-05T11:08:00.000-07:00

As usual, Frank Walton is found to be a liar.

Will Hawthorne posted a comment here at Frank Walton Chronicle see: A Frank Walton Comeback? advising me of his response to Frank Walton here: ~~Invitation to Frank to write posts again on atheismsucks~~
Now that Frank has taken control of Atheismsucks, this post has been removed.

Yeah, it's a mess.

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Frank Walton: Will Hawthorne is a "Mickey Mouse" Apologist.

2008-05-05T09:34:00.000-07:00

Another petty, childish rant from Frank Walton.

We don't hear much from Frank Walton these days. He posted this May 4 2008 at ~~Automatic Response to my Email~~
This post has been removed.

Frank continues to rant. Notice the abundance of name-calling.

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Frank Walton "daddy cool" Drops by Atheismsucks for a Visit.

2008-03-21T18:19:00.000-07:00

The Link

Goodbye Frank Walton/Frank Walton Gets the Boot

2008-02-26T19:22:00.000-08:00

http://atheismsucks.blogspot.com/2008/02/some-announcements-and-farewell-to.html

Frank Walton Deletes a Rebuke from an Atheismsucks Team Member

2008-01-22T17:37:00.000-08:00

As always, is it too hard for your dumb ass to actually comment on the nature of the actual blog post? You obviously didn't watch the video clips.
-Frank Walton

One of the team members M, rebuked him then apologized to anyone else who has endured Franks abuse. It was removed the next day, by Frank himself.
I guess in Franks mind if you are a trouble maker, and there was and is no evidence of that, you are worthy of abuse.

http://atheismsucks.blogspot.com/2008/01/in-defense-of-mr-walton.html

A Christian takes Frank to School / Frank a "Mentor" to his Atheismsucks Team Members

2008-01-21T13:44:00.000-08:00

http://josiahconcept.org/2007/12/03/more-on-frank-walton/

http://josiahconcept.org/2007/12/16/wearing-a-cross/

Frank Walton: Harassing Atheists

2007-11-03T07:23:00.000-07:00

http://atheism.about.com/b/a/190998.htm

Frank Walton criticizing someone else's English

2007-10-31T11:50:00.000-07:00

http://furyangankage.blogspot.com/2007/08/frank-walton-pussies-out.html

"Heck we want there to BE NO ATHEISTS! because basically they suck."

2007-10-17T11:22:00.000-07:00

Frank Walton writes:

"It’s funny how Sam Harris does more harm to the atheist worldview crowd than good! What an idiot! I wrote a blog all about him, and how ridiculous he is. First psychic phenomenon, now this. Yeah SammytheBullshitter, we want atheism to never be used again too. Heck we want there to BE NO ATHEISTS! because basically they suck."

http://www.samharris.org/forum/viewthread/8614/P165/

Frank Walton's Posting Rules

2007-10-09T12:48:00.000-07:00

It's pretty much known that Frank Walton let's very little if any criticism of his ideas, or his blog, or him, pass the censor and get posted. But somehow when someone, even using profanity, attacks someone he doesn't like on his blog, especially one who is giving him a bit of schooling, that post goes right through.

That "anonymous" post was most likely made by Frank himself.

Franks' Rules for Posting

The post he allowed

*UPDATE*

I rest my case.

Experience Some Early Frank Walton Genius

2007-10-07T08:36:00.000-07:00

Back in the early days, before Frank Walton started his blog site, he had and still has a geocities site. In an effort to keep people from cutting and pasting his scholarly opines, he had this message popup telling you your computer sucks when you right click.
Go visit and try it out: http://www.geocities.com/atheismsucks/evolutionart.htm. While you're there try to figure out what the hell he's talking about.

Corrospondance [sic] courses?

2007-10-06T07:53:00.000-07:00

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Frank Walton: Master Debater? Where's the Evidence?

2007-10-03T12:58:00.000-07:00

Frank Walton chickens out of a live debate, because he craves his anonymity.

Frank thinks of himself as a master when it comes to debating his theological ideas. The problem is, there is very little if any evidence that he can even finish a written debate without some sort of problem. Most people he debates quickly realize that Frank really isn't worth their time and bail. People should do a bit more research before debating idiots like frank Walton. But I certainly understand their frustration.
Imaging trying to debate this guy Time Cube That's what it must be like debating Frank Walton. I've looked through these tattered remnants of his proudest moments, and I can't find anything worthy of the title "college student", much less "apologist".

This poor fella hung in there till the bitter end.
txatheist-wont-share-burden-of-proof

The rest:
brian-flemming-is-wus
i-whip-brian-sapient
debate-on-existence-of-god-not
matty-poo-doesnt-think-atheism-sucks
outline-so-far
frank-walton-vs-axiom-tech
jsdvader-is-too-scared-to-face-truth.html
angelsdepart-doesnt-want-fair-debate

It's sad really; Frank See's himself in this league:
Is it me or does Ben look like a gopher? Anyway, no, Benny, your last words would be "I am Ben Dobson and I was always scared of debating real Christian debaters."

Personally I'd be embarrassed to post any of that on a blog with my name on it, unless I was purposely trying to make Christianity look bad. Hmmm..... I have heard rumors.

The "Ben looks like a gopher" comment was a nice touch.

An old one from Frank Walton

2007-10-03T10:38:00.000-07:00

http://goosetheantithesis.blogspot.com/2007/01/frank-walton-v-j-walk.html

I gotta admit the "smakins for your lopsided head" part was pretty funny!

Post an atheismsucks review

2007-09-21T19:53:00.000-07:00

I forgot, please welcome Terry Pritchard, he came over to help. He's the one responsible for the new header. Oh yeah he's got a site. Anyway...

Hey we got our heads together and thought we'd ask you guys to send in atheismsucks reviews. We'll post em up big and permanent, that way when you type in "atheismsucks review" into google you get it at the top. Hey we'll even take positive reviews, really! We think the more atheismsucks gets the exposed, much like a roach, it will run and hide. Terry has provided the one on the right sidebar thing, we'll put yours there.

Ok, here's his site: Beat Mother Theresa!

An Email I just got from Frank Walton

2007-09-21T15:34:00.001-07:00

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From: Frank Walton
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Hey fuck-face, You won't be laughing for long asshole. I've got your address and Yuma isn't that far away,dipshit. Don't be all surprised if you end up with your ass kicked but good, or your house burned down or something happens bad to your family. I'm not saying it'll be me. But I've got lots of friends. Watch you back BITCH!
I can play as dirty as anyone.

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What's Frank Walton Doing?

2007-09-20T18:51:00.001-07:00

Wow, another Frank Walton fan!
Hey this one is animated, when you hit the start button it comes up with a new saying!
You'll have to go there cause I don't know how to get it to do that here. He even adds sayings:
http://scaryjesus.blogspot.com/2007/08/what-is-frank-walton-doing.html
Odd site too, kind of a cool find.

Frank Walton: Romney Believes in Child Rape

2007-09-20T11:47:00.000-07:00

"*Sigh* Romney may be conservative, but he's a Mormon.
That means he doesn't believe in the Bible. He wears magic underwear, he believes that Joseph Smith was real, he believes in polygamy, and child rape. He's a scumbag pure and simple. Having him even run is a disgrace. I support Ron Paul.

Posted by Frank Walton | September 20, 2007 12:32 PM"
THE LINK

Apologetics doesn't get any better than this.

2007-09-18T21:56:00.000-07:00

Apologetics doesn't get any better than this.

http://atheismsucks.blogspot.com/2007/09/proof-that-brian-j-cutler-aka-brian.html

Frank Walton: Gay?

2007-09-18T13:37:00.001-07:00

Frank Walton: Mormons are Scumbags to the tee.

2007-09-17T16:28:00.001-07:00

Frank Walton Flames Us, but good!

2007-09-17T07:32:00.000-07:00

One of the guys over at the Rational Responders Squad linked to this site late last week, and (thanks guys) because of it the traffic to this site has gone through the roof. Along the way however I noticed I'm getting a lot of comments as well, from Frank Walton. I think it's fair to assume that "rational responder jr." and many of the anonymous posts are Frank Walton as well. And I'm quite sure that's not Brian Sapient posting either. I'm really puzzled as to what he hopes to achieve. I got to admit though, I got a chuckle out of the bloody tubesock thing.

Frank Walton: We Will Kill All Of You

2007-09-16T18:03:00.000-07:00

Frank Walton causing trouble at American Atheist

2007-09-15T07:49:00.000-07:00

Just read it at the site:
http://www.atheists.org/nogodblog/index.php/2007/09/12/ignorance_abounds#comments

Frank Walton Threatens Austin Cline

2007-09-14T10:46:00.000-07:00

http://atheism.about.com/b/a/259433.htm

Comments

Listen you balding freak, our founding fathers started this country with the idea of being able to have our own religion, Christianity. Not to make sure religion is gone from everywhere. It\’s pretty obvious from reading your stupid drivel avery week that you are an idiot. I\’d take you on in a debate in a minute, you girlie looking moron.

Plus I\’ve already refuted just about anything you\’ve ever said.

http://atheismsucks.blogspot.com

Plus I love how you took that one thing I said out of context that one time. Thanks for that post you homo, I got tons of traffic from it.

Oh one more thing you suck.

God help me, if we ever meet in the same place and you see a large black man (with Irish and Puerto Rican blood) walking towards you, you best believe that that’s me. You better prepare to have your *** beat. And if you ever feel punchy do let me know because I\’ll be more than happy to spar with you without gloves.

Frank

Comment by Frank Walton — September 12, 2007 @ 6:33 pm
Too bad all the federal circuit courts can’t be like the 9th Circuit court. That is my favorite Circuit court in the country!

Comment by DeeGee — September 12, 2007 @ 7:07 pm

Listen you balding freak, our founding fathers started this country with the idea of being able to have our own religion, Christianity.

Sorry, but I don’t have any religion — especially not Christianity.

Not to make sure religion is gone from everywhere.

Last I looked, that isn’t the implication or basis of the above court decision.

It\’s pretty obvious from reading your stupid drivel avery week that you are an idiot. I\’d take you on in a debate in a minute, you girlie looking moron.

Feel free to post refutations of any of my arguments on all the things you read here every week.

Plus I love how you took that one thing I said out of context that one time.

Feel free to support your allegation.

Oh one more thing you suck.

Wow, you sure showed me.

God help me, if we ever meet in the same place and you see a large black man (with Irish and Puerto Rican blood) walking towards you, you best believe that that\’s me. You better prepare to have your *** beat. And if you ever feel punchy do let me know because I\’ll be more than happy to spar with you without gloves.

Well, that sure causes me to reconsider not being a Christian.

Comment by Austin Cline — September 12, 2007 @ 8:19 pm

*SIGH*

You think I want to convert you?

What a freakin retard, you’re already brainwashed. In fact I’m glad you’re going to hell. It’ll be fun for you to think for eternity about what an idiot you’ve been. In my opinion you aren’t even worth humanity.

Frank

Comment by Frank Walton — September 12, 2007 @ 8:30 pm

Wow, threats of physical violence, with petty insults thrown in. How very pious.

Comment by Joseph — September 12, 2007 @ 8:35 pm

You think I want to convert you?

You’re doing such a good job so far…

What a freakin retard, you’re already brainwashed.

That might be my youth in the Baptist Church.

In fact I’m glad you’re going to hell.

Well, that’s certainly a good, traditional Christian viewpoint, right?

It’ll be fun for you to think for eternity about what an idiot you’ve been.

For that, I’d require good reasons now to think that your god exists; at the moment, though, your god is no more likely to exist than Zeus.

In my opinion you aren’t even worth humanity.

I’m sorry, but that statement is indecipherable.

Comment by Austin Cline — September 12, 2007 @ 9:37 pm

Frank said, “What a freakin retard, you’re already brainwashed. In fact I’m glad you’re going to hell. It’ll be fun for you to think for eternity about what an idiot you’ve been. In my opinion you aren’t even worth humanity.”

Wow Frank. You’re a shining example of Christian love. Your preacher must be so proud.

Keep spreading that love! You do more for our case than you do for your own.

Comment by logicalsoul — September 12, 2007 @ 9:39 pm

Frank is a ******* nutjob.

Comment by tubby — September 13, 2007 @ 8:49 am

I never know whether to respond to people like Frank or not–because on the Internet you get no indication as to whether or not they’re laughing as they post. I don’t know if Frank is a 13-year-old having fun or “for real.”

I received a personal e-mail once from someone who tracked down my private e-mail just to send me a clever graphic implying that I reject god because of fear. When I googled the e-mail address of the sender, I found some rather funny religious posts where he’d egged on a baptist minister at this minister’s “advice” site (obviously making up a convoluted, but very humorous sex story leading to what he claimed was a [again, quite humorous] religious dilemma–it was an obvious gag).

So, here I was, an atheist, getting a goading note from the same kid who was sending goading notes to this Baptist minister. Just someone having a bit of religious fun playing both ends. I don’t fault the kid, he’s just bored and playing jokes on the Internet. But with some people, they’re so wacky you just can’t tell if they’re egging you on as a gag or if they believe what they’re saying.

It’s like those outrageous things you hear sometimes that you just can’t spoof because they seem to be beyond spoofing (as they are just so goofy, they spoof themselves). And with Internet anonymity, sometimes I just can’t make up my mind if someone is serious. Frank would be one of those someones.

Comment by tracieh — September 13, 2007 @ 10:16 am

On a serious note, we have parks where I live where parts of the parks are maintained by citizens or groups. You can ‘adopt’ part of the park, and you get to take care of it. You also get a little plaque naming your group. I don’t know if they allow monuments on these little sections of ground, but I probably wouldn’t mind a group putting a cross on such a thing as long as everyone else who adopted could put up a corporate logo or symbol of their group as recognition of their sponsorship.

Now, it’s probably safer to just say, “Nobody can put up anything, everyone just gets a generic plaque,” but in theory, allowing a symbol or logo as well wouldn’t bug me–it would only stand as long as the group maintained the ground and their sponsorship.

The Atheist Community of Austin actually does an “adopt a highway” sponsorship, and has a highway sign with their name on it. The stretch of highway goes right in front of a church, too–although with this program, you get what the city assigns you, so it just fell to that lot, it wasn’t planned that way by ACA. But kind of ironic.

Comment by tracieh — September 13, 2007 @ 10:24 am

Walton’s response is so typical of an uneducated, closed-minded religious bigot that it almost reads like something out of a mediocre tabloid publication. He can’t offer any solid evidence to refute Austin’s points, so he opts for personal attacks instead. At least he keeps coming back to read “avery week”! Perhaps Austin’s site is slowly cracking that typical Christian resistance to reason.

Comment by DaveTheWave — September 13, 2007 @ 11:58 am

I agree with tracieh, It’s hard to tell where these “Frank Walton” types are coming from. I took a look at his site and he does appear to be
serious about his attempt to bolster his own version of Christianity, though unconvincingly.

I googled his name and found this site: http://frankwaltonchronicle.blogspot.com

Seems like he really gets a kick out of being a jerk.

Comment by Tbones — September 13, 2007 @ 12:57 pm

Just checked out Walton’s blog. What a loving Christian site! It instantly converted me from godless atheism to superstitious dogmatism.

Comment by DaveTheWave — September 13, 2007 @ 12:58 pm

I would probably ignore comments like these given the obvious name-calling. Perusing the site over the last few years, I have seen quite of few comments posted by overzealous theists who resort to personal attacks. Calling someone a balding freak does nothing to help an argument, it only shows the person to have the mentality of a
immature kid.

Comment by Gotweirdness — September 13, 2007 @ 6:11 pm

Austin Cline Frank Walton article: Harassing Atheists

Frank Walton Response: Thank you Austin Cline!

And here: Austin Cline's wager

Frank Walton: You're Gonna Die Bitch

2007-09-13T14:05:00.000-07:00

This comes from: http://arizonaatheist.blogspot.com/2007/09/some-sad-news-this-morning.html

Since this is of such little importance I thought I'd leave this other bit of bad news as a side note in this blog. It's about my good 'ol friend "Frank Walton" (I doubt that's his real name) from atheismsucks.blogspot.com. He left me another heartfelt message! He left two, but since it's early in the morning I only remember one. He said: "you're gonna die bitch." Wow, he must really like me! Just won't leave me alone!

I blocked his email address thinking I wouldn't get any more approve or deny comment messages from this particular person but it apparently didn't work because when I signed in I got two comments that needed to be moderated. Oh well. This moron can say all he wants about me; he's the idiot. It's funny too, because after I wrote that last post about him being better off running down his daddy's leg, he wrote me and said how I was the jerk by saying "obscene" things about him, yet he was the one calling me names, and how stupid I was, etc, yet when I finally get tired of it, and respond in a hostile manner, he gets all hurt, and says how mean I am. Like I said. Idiot. I guess he just likes the attention, and likes me talking about the bullshit he plays. Well, this is the last time I will mention this retard. He isn't worth mentioning any more. Just wanted to show how stupid this guy can be, and get it on record.

Frank Walton: Fundy Atheists Will Never Learn

2007-09-13T10:44:00.000-07:00

Frank Walton: Attacking Jews

2007-09-11T12:40:00.000-07:00

Frank Walton: Attacks another Woman

2007-09-11T08:43:00.000-07:00

I'm surprised he didn't threaten her "UFC" style.
The Link

Frank Walton:WTF?

2007-09-07T22:07:00.000-07:00

Frank Walton: More Imposter Nonsense

2007-09-07T10:53:00.000-07:00

The next day:

Another slip up by Frank Walton.

Frank Walton: He's got sexy nipples?

2007-08-24T18:44:00.000-07:00

Frank Walton:Married?

2007-08-15T22:11:00.000-07:00

http://hgissufficient.blogspot.com/

Frank Walton, posting porn

2007-08-14T22:39:00.000-07:00

Frank Walton, posting porn.

2007-08-14T21:38:00.000-07:00

Apparently he wasn't in da howse long.

"Frank Walton Fan", Navy Seal Commander of 20 Years? (ret. this year after several tours in iraq)? Wrote this?

2007-08-13T22:55:00.000-07:00

Link

It's obviously not posted by a retired veteran of this country's armed forces.
In fact it's an embarrassment.
Another Frank Walton sock puppet?

Frank Walton gets his ass handed to him by Furyan.

2007-08-13T15:48:00.000-07:00

Link

Frank Walton Exposed!: Shall We Begin

2007-08-07T12:23:00.000-07:00

Frank Walton Exposed!: Shall We Begin

Frank Walton: Mormons are Dogs

2007-08-07T10:37:00.000-07:00

Allison Browne said...
Honestly, I can't fathom what Frank Walton is hoping to acomplish. I've never been witness to and intelligent post he's made on any subject whatsoever, anywhere whatsoever.

It is also quite clear that all of his convictions by given to him by someone else. He has no original though, no ability to reason, no reading comprehension. Frank Walton is a detriment to the Christian apologetic community he claims to support. If I had a body of work composed as Frank Waltons is, and it was out there for everyone to see, I'd panic, and not just for the horrible spelling, syntactical and grammatical errors, but for the pure cowardice in avarice in which it is delivered.

Here's a quick look at his apologetics style.
Frank posted:

"Pretty stupid, just what I'd expect from an atheist. Have you even made a decent post except being an idiot? Whould you like some smakins for that lopsided face of yours? Eh, Eh, Can't hear you big nuggets, you sound like a big sisssy boy, you a sissy boy? Boy?
I'd be surprised if you didn't have aids already, queer-boy.
Frank Walton"

He betrays his own efforts at every turn. There is even a posting where he apparently called Mormons dogs:

Frank Walton Calls Mormons Dogs

If I didn't know better I'd think he was an atheist bent on embarrassing the efforts of Christians. But I do know better, he's a punk. He's the kind of guy who punches your little sister at recess, yet hides when you come to look for him.

8:10 AM

Frank Walton: Eva is a Whore

2007-08-07T10:21:00.001-07:00

Found this one archived on Google.
This is most likely why Frank Walton got banned from Raving Atheist.
Notice how he threatens Eva, who I assume is a woman.
Pretty tacky Frank, pretty tacky.

Frank Walton: Another Encounter

2007-08-06T22:36:00.001-07:00

The link

Frank Walton: More Threats of Violence

2007-08-06T13:26:00.000-07:00

Frank Responds to this video:

June 30, 2007

PS I've gone public about my face. So you can lose your boyfriend's underwear from your face. But my picture is not hard to find. So, you'll know how I look like if you ever want to have a friendly fist fight.

June 30, 2007

Hi FrankWaltonSucks,

That was a funny video you did of me. But trust me, I'm not scared that Reginald Finley will kill me. But he publicly posted my home address, phone number, and my wife's name in his forum. This puts my life in danger, FrankWaltonSucks. I'm not surprised you find that hilarious. But I had some atheists call and threaten me. I told one of them to come to my house and fight me if they want. They never showed. But hey, FrankWaltonSucks, since you have my personal info why don't you pay me a visit for a one-on-one sparring match? I promise to go easy. How about it?

Sincerely,

the real Frank Walton

Frank Walton: Banned

2007-08-03T08:10:00.001-07:00

Frank Walton: Obsessed with Violence.

2007-08-02T11:58:00.000-07:00

Frank Walton: Does Rook Hawkins Chug Cum

2007-08-02T11:50:00.001-07:00

A Frank Walton Imposter. Really?

2007-07-31T21:16:00.000-07:00

It's interesting, Frank has been caught many times admitting to using aliases, Daddy Cool instantly comes to mind. Also the post where Frank forgot to log off his real name before pretending to be the "fake Frank" sock puppet:

http://frankwaltonexposed.blogspot.com/2007/07/shall-we-begin.html

Well, here's one where he forgot to log off his "fake Frank Walton" profile to his "real one". The real Frank walton and the fake on are the same guy. Frank Walton.
Here's the link:

https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=13358611&postID=5170596828426760867

Frank Walton: You're Pretty Much Worthless

2007-07-26T16:17:00.000-07:00

Frank Walton: You Jerks Seem Made For Each Other

2007-07-24T08:15:00.001-07:00

Bnon's response:

Frank Walton's Opening Statement: You Suck!

2007-07-22T16:47:00.000-07:00

Frank Walton:Mormons are pigs.

2007-07-22T16:20:00.000-07:00

Frank Walton, Debate Disaster at theologyonline, Threatens Host with Violence

2007-07-18T14:47:00.000-07:00

Knight, I cannot believe people like you. You are a low-life piece of trash. And yet you question my faith in God?! God help me, if we ever meet in the same place and you see a large black man (with Irish and Puerto Rican blood) walking towards you, you best believe that that's me. You better prepare to have your ears plugged because you will receive a tongue lashing you won't soon forget. And if you ever feel punchy do let me know because I'll be more than happy to spar with you without gloves.

Frank

http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=37462&page=4

Frank Walton:Mormons Rape Their Own Little Girls

2007-07-18T12:43:00.000-07:00

http://mormonssuck.blogspot.com

Frank Walton: Christopher Reeve in Hell

2007-07-18T12:32:00.000-07:00

http://christopherreevesucks.blogspot.com/

Frank Walton: You sound like an intellectual idiot

2007-07-18T12:18:00.000-07:00

Link

Does God Exist?

2007-07-18T12:09:00.000-07:00

A truly embarrasing attempt at an opening statement. After Drew read this, he realized he mis-judged Frank and abandoned the debate

Does God Exist?
By Frank Walton

I'd like to remind our readers that the topic of the discussion is in a form of a question: "Does God exist?" This is an existential claim. That is to say, it's a question about existence; in particular, God's existence. Topics such as discrepancies in the Bible or societal norms that befit a better society do not indicate whether God literally exists. The two competing worldviews are atheism and Christianity. According to our own system of thought certain facts and evidences make sense to us. Now it wouldn't do any good to assume his view and judge mine as that would be begging the question. For instance, in his blog, Drew made the peculiar claim that
"we find that the odds of sentient life occuring in the universe(assuming it only ever occurs once) is 1 in 10 sextillion. Or 1 in 10000000000000000000000. Thus, astronomical evidence speaks far more to random chance than a divine purpose." [1]
To be quite frank, the above conclusion is astounding! If probability is multiplied by more improbability to the point where we have incomprehensible numbers, then there is no reason why these quantities should possess the values they do. Many scientists concur with the statistics, but assume the opposite, that the world was created with divine purpose. As scientist Fred Hoyle said, "A common sense interpretation of the facts suggests that a superintellect has monkeyed with physics."[2] But these facts and evidences are interpreted within worldviews. Drew's view that the world came about by random chance (given his evidence) makes sense to him, but it doesn't make any sense to me (given the same evidence). So how do we resolve this problem? What we have to do is give internal critiques of our opponent's worldviews demonstrating its inability to account for human experience.
Drew has put himself in quite a conundrum here. For his worldview is evidential in nature. Here he says,
"The reasoning for such a belief (in atheism) is based on empirical evidince, or more accurately, the lack of such evidence to support the claim of a supernatural being, Judeo-Christian or otherwise." [3]
Drew believes that something should only be believed on the basis of evidence. But if everything must have evidence prior to acceptance, then we will never be able to establish anything as true since anything trotted out as evidence would itself need to be proven, and so on ad infinitum! This isn't at all rational.
Now, given the presuppositions of Christianity as a system we can account for rationality and logic. They reflect the nature of an absolute God. They are universal and eternal expressions of His unchanging character. And contrary to what Drew said, no academic Christian (at least, none that I know of) believes the laws of logic were literally made by God.[4] Given the atheist's presuppositions I don't see how he can account for logic. In a random chance universe, all logic would be a product of randomness in a world constantly evolving. If the world is in constant flux do the laws of logic evolve then? As philosopher, Arlie J. Hoover said,
"One could well ask: 'If the mind, like all else in nature, is still evolving, how can we be sure that its present structure and operation guarantee any truth?' For example, did the Law of Contradiction, which is necessary for truth, evolve like the rest of the body? How can we be sure that there's not some new mental law, now struggling to be born, a law which will enable us to get even closer to the truth about reality? Would this new law confirm or contradict evolutionism and naturalism?" [5]
Logic calls for abstract entities which are uniform and orderly, which brings me to my next argument: the uniformity of nature.
How do we know that the laws of nature operate in the manner that it does? By seeing and testing those laws; were it not for the uniformity of nature there's just no way of doing science. However, the problem the atheist has is that not all of nature is restricted to his experience. What he would end up doing is making a hasty generalization because he's taking a small amount of evidence and universalizing it. Also, the atheist has the problem of knowing whether what he sees and tests now will apply in the past or future, because he cannot jump into the past or jump into the future. As David Hume said, we cannot see causation. You cannot know that A necessarily causes B simply because B happens to follow A at a given point in time. You can say that B may follow A most of the time, but you cannot possibly know it always has or always will. In fact Bertrand Russell admits that you can't expect the future to be like the past apart from a view of nature that accounts for its uniformity:
"It has been argued that we have reason to know that the future will resemble the past, because what was the future has constantly become the past, and has always been found to resemble the past, so that we really have experience of the future, namely of times which were formerly future, which we may call past futures. But such an argument really begs the very question at issue. We have experience of past futures, but not of future futures, and the question is: Will the future futures resemble past futures? This question is not to be answered by an argument, which starts from past futures alone. We have therefore still to seek for some principle which shall enable us to know that the future will follow the same laws as the past."[6]
If I were to ride my skateboard and push forward, how would I know that I would actually move forward instead of suddenly turning into a horse? Because we all know that nature is uniform and it makes life practical. How would an atheist account for this in a random chance universe though? The Christian has an advantage here because God is infinite and sovereign over the world. And in Him all things hold together. The world reflects the uniformity He imposes on it. My second proof of God's existence then utilizes the uniformity of nature, or, if you will, the "skateboard proof for God's existence."
Finally, I would like to deal with my third argument: morality. As far as I can tell there are no inherent contradictions between the first premise - "evil exists" - and the second premise - "an all good God exists." First let's deal with the first premise: evil exists. How do we know what's evil anyway? What constitutes as something "evil"? The atheist is hard-pressed for an answer. Indeed in Drew's blog, he presents the problem of evil against God with the premise:
"All-benevolent beings are opposed to all evil."[7]
The odd thing about this is Drew is already assuming his humanistic ethic, when it's the very question at hand. How does he know what's "evil" anyway? For in the atheist worldview all morality is relative. So, whose morality is the right one? For the Christian, morality is absolute and objective since they are based on God's holy character. But if morality is subjective to the individual or culture, then Mao Zedong's persecution of the millions of Chinese dissidents were no more evil than those who decry any of those atrocities. Furthermore, in an atheist worldview man is no more morally significant than a mere animal. A red ant killing a black ant then is no more significant than a white man killing a black man! In the atheist worldview man is a mere bag of protoplasm that randomly came about. In fact atheist and evolutionist Dr. William Provine said,
"Let me summarize my views on what modern evolutionary biology tells us loud and clear -- and these are basically Darwin's views. There are no gods, no purposes, and no goal-directed forces of any kind. There is no life after death. When I die, I am absolutely certain that I am going to be dead. That's the end of me. There is no ultimate foundation for ethics, no ultimate meaning in life, and no free will for humans, either." [8]
You see, in atheism there really isn't anything you can call "evil" since there is no foundation for it.
Now let's deal with the second premise "an all good God exists." If God allows evil for a sufficient reason, then there is no conflict with His nature if evil happens. The Bible is filled with examples where God had allowed evil to happen for a sufficient reason. You need only look at Jesus Christ, whom God allowed to be crucified on the cross. The killing of Christ was certainly evil but it was done for a sufficient reason: so "that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life" (John 3:16). My argument for morality then is my third and last argument.

Frank Walton: I'll Bet Your Gay

2007-07-18T11:24:00.000-07:00

Is that some kind of arab name (Furyan) I'll bet your gay as well and rape your own children.
link

Atheism is the Rational Response: Why I Can't Take Frank Walton Seriously.

2007-07-18T11:09:00.000-07:00

Atheism is the Rational Response: Why I Can't Take Frank Walton Seriously.: "Why I Can't Take Frank Walton Seriously. "

"Hello butt boy Constantine,Let's do a little roleplay.Let's say I'm making a claim about the origin of the universe to you, and that you're seeing if it's rational.I say that the universe was woven together out of nature from nothing.My evidence of this is the second law of thermodynamics - the universe had to come from SOMEWHERE, and I actually found a written testimony lying on the street written by evolved monkeys.What would you say to that, gay boy? You'd probably say, "Uh, duh, I need no explanation."You must be on crack, butt boy."

Frank Walton: Kill Yourself

2007-07-18T10:26:00.000-07:00

Camel toe? Ultimate fighter?

2007-07-17T18:36:00.000-07:00

A typical Frank Walton post.